From the HBD Archive
From: gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane)
Subject: Re: Lager, Kitchen Aid, Wyeast, Plastic,
Date: 1992-03-04 19:40:00 GMT

Jack Schmidling writes:
>
> I would like to hear from anyone who can describe the difference between a
> lager and an ale, in terms of the taste.
>
> I am thinking in terms of everything else being equal, just what are the
> effects of cold, long-term lagering on the taste of a beer.
>
> If one made a batch of beer and lagered half in cold and used ale yeast at
> ale temperatures on the other half, what would one expect to taste that makes
> it all worth while?
>
> Breweries spend zillions to lager so I presume there must be a reason but as
> most of what they make, isn't worthy of the name beer, I can't help but
> wonder why they bother.
>
Probably you ought to try drinking some good lagers; it's as difficult
explaining the difference between ale and lager to someone who clearly
doesn't understand it as explaining color to a blind man.

> As I keep looking for ways of improving my beer, I don't want to overlook
> anything but this just seems like lunacy, (sort of like using liquid yeast).
>
If you're ignoring liquid yeast, you can't be looking too hard.

> >Every day I give the relief valve a pull and get about a 3 second blast of
> CO2. The gravity, however does not seem to be changing. The beer tastes OK.
> Why is it not fermenting out?
>
> Standby! I had a similar problem with a batch that fermented like new beer
> for several months. A vile taste eventually caught up with the bubbles.
>
> I suspect you have unwitingly exploded the myth of "Wyeast purity". Sounds
> like they cheated on the old family recipe and slipped you a bit of Red Star.
>
Yes, it's pretty obvious from all the evidence, that WYeast was
responsible for your contaminated beer. Although you don't believe in
using liquid yeast, so clearly this wasn't the problem with *your* beer.
Hmmmm.

It really gets your goat that somewhere someone is doing something right
and making a living at it, doesn't it?

- --Jeff Frane




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