From the HBD Archive
From: (Jack Schmidling)
Date: 1992-04-05 13:40:00 GMT

To: Homebrew Digest
Fm: Jack Schmidling

The following exchange indicates that I seem to have forgotten to put on my
dancing shoes again....

>From: matth@bedford.progress.COM

> Fred Condo Sez:

> That he just switched to all grain from extract and felt it was a
painless process

>In reply to this, Arf Sez:

> "Congratulations! Welcome to the club of real homebrewers."

> To This I say:

> Jack, your attitude bit is stuck. Just because someone doesn't do all
grain doesn't mean they aren't "real" homebrewers.

I received several similar letters from readers and don't know whether to
laugh or cry. For the record, I did not intend to insult anyone but if
congratualting someone constitutes an insult, there is little hope for any
meaningful dialog.

> It's like a 'C' programmer telling an ADA programmer 'You`re not a real
programmer because you don't use C'.

Not even close. It is more like the difference between baking with cake
mixes and baking from scratch. Women/cooks accept the difference, why can't

>Many people don't have the time, money, or desire to go all grain. (Right
now I don't have the time, and it *is* more time consuming).

> Enough said.

Not enough at all. Vote the county dry and move out of town?

You can not negate the value and effort of people who DO devote "the time,
money or desire to go all grain" simply by declaring that YOU don't have the
time, anymore than my statement reduces the value of what you are doing.

Although the definition of a "real homebrewer" might be subject to debate, I
don't think there can be much debate about the fact that making extract beer
is NOT really brewing. That's not to say it isn't fun, rewarding and great
beer, just that mashing is a fundamental step in the brewing process, without
which, one is simply making beer.

>From: Bob Jones <>

>ps. Since Jack Schmidling lives in the area of the conference I hope he
can attend I would like to meet him. I am certain that interesting
conversation would insue.

I will be there with bells on and a MALTMILL in tow.

Subject: AHA Conference Milwaukee

>The AHA conference will be June 9 to 13 at the Marc Plaza Hotel

>For full details contact:
AHA Conference
PO Box 1679
Boulder CO 80306
(303) 447-0816
(303) 447-2825 fax

How bout posting a few details and save the paper shuffle. What is the
schedule. I am not likely to want to spend three days so I would like to
pick that day based on some rationale.


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