From the HBD Archive
From: (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Beer Snobs
Date: 1992-06-19 14:14:00 GMT

To: Homebrew Digest
Fm: Jack Schmidling

> -- R. Al Marshall
>Subject: Lupulophobia in Milwaukee

>Basically, I'm impressed by the report that Jack's beer is clean (and

But of course, what you do not know is that I had previously agreed to write
a glowing review of the Fix's new book. :)

From a philosophical and political viewpoint, I think your comments are most
poignant. However, having been present at the tasting in person and being
the Master Brewer of the beer in question, I can assure you that the comments
on balance (or at least hoppiness) were probably appropriate.

First of all, watching George's lovely wife stick her nose in the beer and
snort like a rhino really made one believe they were serious. When she came
up for air and pronounced it clean, a new era was ushered into the world of
homebrewing and church bells rang round the world.

Their comments on the hops actually were an impressive insight into their
credibility as judges of beer and my own growing taste awareness. Please
understand I mean judges in the common usage, not the politically correct,
AHA approved type.

That particular batch of beer, AGA #23 was an experiment in hoppiness. My
standard hopping rate has been 1 oz Chinook and .5 oz Saaz. Wanting to get a
feel for the effect of hops in beer, I doubled the Chinook in this batch to
make sure I would not miss it if the difference was subtle.

Our impression of the beer was that it is great with popcorn but if tasted
with a clean mouth, it is a bit too bitter for our taste. However
considering the fact that Marilyn and I usually have a bowl of popcorn with
our daily glass of beer, it seems appropriate for a "popcorn style" ale. We,
like most people, share our beer with lots of brainwashed Americans and most
of them probably would also find it too bitter.

So the comments on hops are not surprising. We simply brought the keg that
was next in line, not one specially brewed to impress convention folk.

The comments on maltiness are far more interesting to us because this batch
also was a departure from our normal generic pale malt. We substituted 5
pounds (1/2 the total) of expensive, imported "Munich malt" for the .55/lb
Harrington we buy from Minnesota Malting. We were unimpressed with the
difference. In fact, when comparing it with the standard, we either could
not tell the difference or preferred the standard.

So, in summary, I am glad the Fix's were there to taste it and I am glad
there are people out there willing to put beer snobs in their place. But you
may rest assured that beer snobs, the Fix's most assuredly are not.

>From: melkor!rick@uunet.UU.NET (Rick Larson)
>Subject: Re: Cheap Kegs and related hardware

>BTW, don't bother calling Cornelius for kegs, they are wholesale only.
Try looking in the classifieds under Restaurant Equipment (or Brew&Grow).
Anyone know of other places for kegs?

I bought my first keg through the mail for $35 plus shipping. On my next
trip to the scrap yard where I buy my aluminum for MALTMILL castings, I spied
a mountain of Coke kegs under a snow bank. I offered him $5 and he glowed
like I really blew it. I took two home to see if they were any good and when
I got around to going back for more, they were of course, gone.

The good news is that he had a few more the next time I went for aluminum.
So I suggest checking out scrap yards, you may get lucky but start by
offering a buck. Is that cheap enough?


Hope this helps,


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