From the HBD Archive
Subject: ESP/culturing/malehops
Date: 1992-07-22 16:57:00 GMT

First, I'd like to point out that there were *two* instances of ESP
(no, not ESB) in the last HBD. First, I asked about the importance
of protein rests with fully-modified malts, which was telepathically
relayed to Larry Barello, who answered my question, and then there
was the request for brewpubs in St. Louis followed by Walter Gude's
review of Dave Miller's brewpub (I'm sure glad I didn't post right

Secondly, I'd like to answer Chris' question about culturing from
commercial beers such as Sierra Nevada. I've had great success with
SNPA yeast, both from Wyeast and from the bottles. I have heard a
rumour that SN has begun filtering their beers (I hope someone can
dispel this rumour) -- I'm quite sure that their Pale Bock has no
yeast in the bottom. The SNPA I have is a few months old and still
has yeast in the bottom. I recommend you use a starter, Chris. All
you have to do is put two tablespoons of malt in a cup of water and
boil it for ten minutes. Cool that with the cover on the pot. When
the mini-wort is at 70F, pour (from a foot or so above the sanitized
funnel -- for aeration) the wort into a bottle in which you've left
(as you had mentioned) the last 1cm of beer. Flame the lips of the
bottles before every pour for added sanitation. I usually use three
bottles of SNPA poured together into a single bottle and 8 ounces of
wort. Attach and airlock. If the beer was around 60F or so, there
is less shock to the yeast and it seems to start faster -- sometimes
in as little as 12 hours. I suggest you wait 24-35 hours. At high-
krausen, a 3-piece airlock will bubble about once every 1-2 minutes
(equivalent to 40-80 bubbles/minute in a 5 gallon batch).

Finally, a question:
What do male hops look like? I think my Nugget may be a male. The
"cones" look really tiny with 20-30 3/8" to 1/2" spikes sticking out
of them. I'd be pretty upset if I raised this plant from a pup and
then find out I have to rip it out. (Just for completeness, males
are unwelcome in hopfields -- they fertilize the females causing them
to make seeds instead of concentrating their efforts on lupulin.)


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