From the HBD Archive
From: Darryl Richman <>
Subject: RE: Killer Party Ale
Date: 1989-03-09 16:42:56 GMT

From: a.e.mossberg <>
"Lyle's Golden Syrup is hardly an "unusual" ingredient or a "shop brand". It
"is a very well-known product from Britain. Perhaps is in the
"boonies? Lyle's Golden Syrup is a brand of cane sugar syrup. BrewMagic is
"-- you guessed it -- enzymes. It was pretty obvious, and it is also a very
"widely distributed brand. I'm surprised you didn't ask me the alpha acid
"of the hops too.

Well, let me chime in to say that I've never heard of either of these
products. If I suggested that you use Karo Syrup, would you know that
it's corn sugar syrup? And frankly, I would be interested in more
details about BrewMagic. If I tell you that I've used some brand of
"Burtonizing Salts", it really doesn't tell you much about it, does
it? What enzymes, what proportions? (This is not a picky nit;
enzymes such as papain can be used as a clarifier.)

"Party Killer Ale is somewhat close to Carlsberg Elephant Malt Liquor.

And since yesterday's digest had a guess that Killer Party Ale was
going to end up as an old ale, it is useful to give at least a

"Now, on one hand you have these people who want each little detail in a
"recipe, because apparently a beer is not worth making unless they can
"specifically duplicate it down to a chemical level.

This isn't really what we're after (well, I assume "we"); but the more
we know about your experiences, the better we can apply them to ours.
I haven't ever made anything remotely like Killer Party Ale, and so it
is a completely new datapoint for me; tell me more about it!

"Then you have these other people who keep saying "experiment", "try different
"things", "be creative".

Exactly--but the point of experimenting is to fill in gaps of

"And curiously, they're the same people, just on different days.
"Sounds like a job for sci.psychology to me.

I just said it in the last few sentences! Sign me up for the Zippy

--Darryl Richman

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